Ten years ago, most visqueen used to be of fairly high quality and it wasn’t hard to walk into home depot and walk out with a roll of plastic good enough for bagging. But at some point cheap, porous, recycled visqueen took over the market, which is fine for most uses but ridiculously bad for vacuum. Good polyethylene sheeting will be somewhat transparent, and smooth texture. I recently ordered a roll of Xpose Safety 4.5 mil through amazon, and it was inexpensive, and excellent. i bagged 7′ x 18′ curved foam roof panels on a 3cfm vac pump and got a nice hard vacuum with not much attention to detail. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PBXHWFB/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I took on the job of building a set of hulls for Kurts 28’ power cat design which we stretched to 31’ by adding about 2.5 inches to every station. We upped the stringer size by 30% and glassed with 8oz rather than 6oz but otherwise stuck with the plan and laminate schedule. We used multiple layers of 8 and 10oz to make up biax tapes, i find it makes for easier fairing and allows for tapering the buildup. We did a half-way-to-yacht quality fairing job, primed with 545 and installed cleats, hatches, fuel tanks, and fuel fills. There will be lightweight 25 hp engines mounted on rear transoms. We finished both hulls and shipped to the owner in maine, who is going to build the cross arms and center cockpit over the winter. I really can’t recommend committing to building a boat over the summer in sarasota, florida in a non-airconditioned space, but, in the spirit of running a marathon, and other ridiculously painful ways to enjoy yourself, we did it. Total build time, including purchasing, hardware, and mounting on a trailer for shipment, was in the neighborhood of a thousand hours. LOTS of pictures after the break-
I got the GPO-3 fiberglass sheet from Online Metals dot com. I hoped to substitute it for the more expensive G-10. Looks like it worked. It is smooth like G-10 though in the picture above it looks rough.
This 2 foot by 2 foot sheet was $10. Picked it up myself. Compare to same size G-10 at McMaster Carr at $47 plus some $20 shipping.
The red probably means it is phenolic. Both of these are fire resistant.
The panel looks like it was made with chopper gun, but it will be used for low load applications, so no worry.
They did used to be a friendly neighborhood supplier. They have been bought by Thyssen Krupp and have a new corporate bureaucracy feel now. Good prices though.
VHB tape is wonderful stuff to stick things together. It was created for attaching windows to things, with no fasteners. However, I just had an illustrative example of when not to use it.
I was very impressed with the VHB tape on the lunar lander dome. It had a steel frame to stick to. Straight and smooth.
Maybe out of inertia, I also put it on the little triangular windows of the lunar lander. Later I realized the tape looked too wide on those tiny windows and I vowed to trim it back when I bought a tall enough ladder to reach.
I got the ladder. It turned out that all I had to do was push a bit and the windows folded back in. So I could then remove the tape.
Two lessons. For VHB tape to work well, the contact surface must be both flat and smooth. Many of you can do that. I seem to not have that skill nor ability in hard to reach places.
The second lesson is the VHB tape must be kept dry. Due to no ladder, I could not protect it with my caulk.
My triangular windows are now stopped in and bedded with caulk. The caulk can span the sketchy surface and gaps.
If you can do and flat, fair and smooth contact surface, go for it. If not, use adhesive caulk, like the System 3, two part polyurethane.
In contrast, I have a solar powered motion light stuck above the front door. It was stuck on with a couple of strips of VHB tape. Turns out the light is defective and won’t work. I not only can’t remove it, I can hang from it. And swing. Gonna take a chisel maybe.
Online Metals oddly has one of the nicest plastics surveys I’ve seen. I keep bugging them to carry G-10, but not yet. They do have a GPO 3 which sounds similar to G-10.. I will have to get some and see.
These bearings seem like a big improvement over what we usually have to do for the unstayed rotating masts. In the past builders have had to machine a bearing out of a giant chunk of slick plastic. Most of the plastic was ground off and wasted and the cost ran into thousands. http://www.glidebearings.com/
Spherical bearings like the Tides units would have been perfect, but were not nearly large enough. Bendy materials like carbon fiber require spherical bearings to keep from binding under load, or as Rob Denny does, have a very loose fit.
These kind of are of the loose fit variety. I see the bearing having a fairly close fit to the round mast, but deflecting with the mast. I have not detailed this yet but will. The bearing will need a fiberglass sleeve around it to protect it and keep it round. I see this whole unit captured in a looser fit.
Contact Tim Creighton at Glidebearings email@example.com
Is it possible that Kamanu is 30 now? I did the working drawings in ’84 I remember. Am pretty sure it was launched by Schooner Creek Boatworks in ’85. http://kamanu.com
Cylinder molded developed plywood/epoxy. My first USCG certified passenger cat. Am sure Derek will froth if he hears about a 30 year old CM cat still going out every day.
Non-Metallic PEX Fittings
Pex piping was one of the discoveries I made on the Lunar Lander project. It is used in place of PVC especially since it can survive freezing. The plumbers used metal joint fittings, which must be destroyed for the piping to be revised.
At the IBEX conference I found these non-metal pex clamps. www.flairit.com www.iplumb.tv .They can be installed with only pliers instead of a crimping machine that resembles bolt cutters. An improvement on an improvement. Made in Chile. There, better pic.
Its a very exciting time to be an innovating designer and builder.
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I get all my needed and possible fiberglass products here at McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/#
I mostly buy G-10 fiberglass sheets to fabricate into door flanges, winch bases and the like. My friends at CSR Marine buy reams of the stuff.
We finally get to see some pictures of Chris Anderson’s cat that he designed and is building. This is going on in New Zealand. North Island I think. This is a CM (cylinder molded) developed plywood vessel. Chris goes away back on the process. In fact he is in the original CM video.
If I may throw in a bit of bio: Chris led the team that designed the fly-by-wire controls for the Boeing 777. I’m surprised he has not also been interviewed by Wolf Blitzer this week.
Being from the antipodes, Chris did not know about Autocad, so he designed and used his own 3D modeling CADD software.
This unit will have 6 unstayed masts. I recall seeing the rig arrangement fastened to the top of his car; he was conducting tests.
Good stuff and great to see it move along.
Upgraded the video on this a bit: The layup on a 68′ cylinder molded hull currently under construction in Roatan: it’s speeded up quite a bit, this is about 25 minutes of real time. the half hull panels are approximately 11′ x 71′ – 4 layers of 3mm plywood and 33 gallons of epoxy.
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