I just got word from Paypal that even though I provided USPS tracking proof that I mailed the DVD, since post office still has not delivered it, customer gets full refund. I’m going to have to put in extra protections for Paypal sales I guess. Customer has not responded to any emails so I have no way to know if he actually got it.
Category Archives: New Designs
Stuff Done Wrong #1
I’ve been wanting to start SDW for a while. Longtime seadog and venerable boatscum Richard Elder got me started with a note and a link on the Spirit of Kingston passenger ferry. Its really the same story over and over. Legislative groups who know nothing about catamarans hire elderly gold plated naval architecture firms, who actually also know nothing about catamarans, to pick ferries for them.
This is a prime example. It is 71′ long so it is just over the magic 65′ cutoff length to avoid excess USCG mucking about. They must have wanted the additional mountain of regulatory mucking about that extra 6′ gave them. Displacement is 43 tons or 86,000 lbs. Beam overall is 25.5′ so kind of like my Holo Holo or Kai Oli Oli. Kai Oli Oli lightship is 37,000 lbs for comparison. Look at the power comparison. It needs 4, yes 4 engines of 740 hp each. My cats are 500 hp per side for slightly less top speed but the same cruising speed. Fuel use on SK is 80- 85 gph. Compare to Holo which is about 15 gallons per hour.
And I understand the passengers take a beating when the wind blows. “Some have criticized the port for purchasing the Spirit, a light catamaran that last winter’s heavy seas treated roughly. “The weather was slowly beating up on us,” recalled port commissioner Pete DeBoer.” Light? It has fat hulls, big overhang, short waterline, and low bridge-deck; you think? I’m sure the highly credentialed consultants they hired had never actually been on a wave piercer or semi-wave piercer catamaran. Holo operates out of Kauai. The USCG considers those to be some of the most extreme waters in their jurisdiction. Those are real waves. The designers and buyers of SK clearly did not understand displacement hulls or they would not have allowed this amazingly bad example of a passenger ferry. The Washington State Ferries need an intervention.
Plans Update
There has never been so many plans orders so soon from the Holiday Discount. I am going as fast as I can to get them out. Most have been printed already, but I am looking to see if any pages need updating or replacing.
I am going to try one new thing as all the orders are from overseas. Airmail post has become even slower than before. I sent a DVD to customer in Canada in early December by air. Tracking it I see that it took 10 days to get from Seattle to LA. It left LA for Canada on Dec. 22nd and is still not there. Courier like Fedex is crazy expensive. Something like $150 just for the DVD. The Construction Manuals are too large to really email. Tomorrow I want to try to create some smaller versions of them and see how small they can become. Then I can email them to everybody and save a lot of grief. Sets me back another day though, so please bear with me. I did work through the holidays and will keep on trying to get everything out as quickly as I can.
Passenger Ferry Study
I read last week that the washington state department of transportation is looking for new passenger ferries. Typically they will want to pay $5 million for each one. And each one will need a thousand horsepower on each side to go 25 knots. And they will look like autonomous units, designed by fishboat designers.
In the spirit of my friend Larry’s ferry, http://www.seattleferryservice.com/ A single yes, but a nice friendly looking boat. I propose a new Mosquito Fleet looking catamaran. Friendly and traditional, but built with infused composites and epoxy plywood/core/plywood sandwich cabin.
Last saturday I did a quick study model of the vessel. 65′ x 30′. 100 passengers. 27 knots with 500 hp per side. About 1.5 miles per gallon. Cost should be under a million.
J Ds Posting
I sometimes forget what a nice set of pictures and what a dramatic story Jim Dory has with his KHSD 30′ cat. Think I remarked before, but it came up in the forum and I had to see all the pictures again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jdory/sets/72157625973914417/
Sources
A big mess of sources. I worked on a lot of these during the last few trips. I imagine this kind of being crowd sourced where people will add to this as it goes along. Some to be added anyway, but getting it out for what it is now.
A sources list now is different than it was when I first did the Construction Manual. Presently the best way to locate boatbuilding products is to go to the manufacturers website, and from there find the vendors in your local area. This list is pretty much for North America. And it leans toward products that I have first or second-hand experience with. Builders elsewhere, get me your favorites and I will expand this.
Epoxy
Mas http://www.masepoxies.com/
Noahs www.noahsmarine.com
System 3 www.systemthree.com
WEST System www.westsystem.com
Fiberlay www.fiberlay.com
Jamestown Dist. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/main.do
Fiberglass Supply www.fiberglasssupply.com
Vinylester Resin
Ashland Chemical http://www.ashland.com/products/hetron-epoxy-vinyl-ester-resin
Interplastic Corp http://www.interplastic.com/
Composite Fabrics
Fiberglass Supply www.fiberglasssupply.com
Fisheries supply www.fisheriessupply.com
Fiberlay www.fiberlay.com
Composites One http://www.compositesone.com/
VectorPly http://www.vectorply.com/
Core
http://corecomposites.com/media/CoreComparisonChart.pdf
Airex http://www.corematerials.3acomposites.com/
Corecell http://www.atlcomposites.com/products/cores/end grain balsa/index.htm
Divinycell (crosslinked PVC) http://www.diabgroup.com/europe/products/e_prods_2.html
Urethane General Plastics http://www.generalplastics.com/products/index.php?PHPSESSID=6ac3fdb313fb070a2d6a8f4d0f5eb4a4
Balsa http://www.corematerials.3acomposites.com/
Paulownia http://www.paulowniawood.com/
Foamular http://www.foamular.com/foam/
Fiberlay www.fiberlay.com
Nidacore http://www.nida-core.com/
Polycore http://www.polycore.com.au/
Plascore http://www.plascore.com/index.htm
Tricel http://www.tricelcorp.com/
Core Craft FRP Honeycomb http://www.infracomp.com/index.html
Vacuum Bagging supplies and equipment
Fiberlay www.fiberlay.com
Airtech http://www.airtechonline.com/
Plywood/Lumber
Anchor Hardwoods www.AnchorHardwoods.com
Edensaw http://www.edensaw.com/MainSite/Store1/Content/SiteContent/1/Home/Main.aspx
Meridian Plywood 1-800-743-1126 Lynnwood, WA
Noahs www.noahsmarine.com
Boulter Plywood www.boulterplywood.com
Joubert Plywood www.wolstenholme.com
Paint
Farwest Paint www.farwestpaint.com
Awlgrip http://www.uspaint.com/
Stirling http://www.scomar.com.au/Products/Coatings/CoatingsSterling.aspx
Rigging and Masts
Hall Spar
LeFiel
Plastics
Hardware
Fisheries Supply http://www.fisheriessupply.com/
West Marine http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategories1_11151_10001_-1
Foamex
Outdoor cushions that do not absorb water. Dry-fast open cell polyurethane foam ideal for outdoor furniture and boat cushions. Five Year warranty.
www.foamex.com
I have bought some light samples from HollySolar http://www.hollysolar.com/
The watermaker store (http://www.watermakerstore.com In san diego has a watermaker (up to 1500gpd) with a 130A alternator on it, all based on the Kubota 6hp diesel which purportedly uses 1/8 gallon per hour.
Masts
Masts, Battens www.c-tech.co.nz
www.southernspars.com former omohundro 775-782-6788
http://ballengerspars.com/, often called the best mast builder
Sailing equipment www.layline.com
Synthetic rigging parts seen
at http://www.allspars.co.uk/precourt.html
Carbon tubes http://www.cstsales.com/
racing software and electronics
Marine computing international http://www.marinecomputing.com/
make a black box that allos wind and radar to be fitted on a rotating mast (Mike Golding on his open 60 has one)
Composite props www.kiwiprops.co.nz/home
electric outboards http://www.fischerpanda.de/cgi-bin/start.pl?task=content&folder=03_Whisperprop_Marine_Propulsion&sfolder=NULL&file=08_DE-Outboard.html&lang=eng
A Steerable diesel electric outboard: http://www.fischerpanda.de/cgi-bin/start.pl?task=content&folder=03_Whisperprop_Marine_Propulsion&sfolder=NULL&file=06_ADE-Saildrive.html&lang=eng
Steerable raisable electric drive: http://www.fischerpanda.de/cgi-bin/start.pl?task=content&folder=03_Whisperprop_Marine_Propulsion&sfolder=NULL&file=10_RA-DE_Thruster.html&lang=eng
The Azimuting Podded Prop: http://www.fischerpanda.de/cgi-bin/start.pl?task=content&folder=03_Whisperprop_Marine_Propulsion&sfolder=NULL&file=07_AZIPROP.html&lang=eng
Or these amazing drives http://www.fischerpanda.de/cgi-bin/start.pl?task=content&folder=03_Whisperprop_Marine_Propulsion&sfolder=NULL&file=12_General_AZIPROP.html&lang=eng
Plastic Mirror TAP Plastics Inc. www.tapplastics.com
Go to www.solomomtechnologies.com electric power
For nets
window bedding techniques
http://www.sikasolutions.com/Marine/295.htm
Tools
Northern Tool And Equipment www.northern-online.com
Fax: 1-612-882-6927 Air tools, Auto, Engines, Generators, Gloves, Hydraulics ect…..
For info on LED lights www.Hollysolar.com
http://www.diyplastics.com/safetyglazing.htm
comparison table for plastics and other materials
http://www.machinist-materials.com/comparison_table_for_plastics.htm
Composite materials
Noah’s Marine www.noahsmarine.com
A local Vancouver company, Kraft Industrial Supplies.
www.kraftindustrial.com Lots of other nifty pultruded shapes (I
confess I was surprised how cheap these things are).
I just had a meeting with a rep from TriStar Plastics Corp. This is the
plastics equivalent of a steel service center. They stock plastic, machine
plastic and will provide technical advice on what is best for a particular
application. Interestingly they make a wide variety of bearings which would
seem ideal for rudders etc. www.tstar.com
plastic boat sheds www.ClearSpan.com
Carbon tubes, start with these guys:
http://www.csi-composites.com/
http://www.carbonfibertubeshop.com//index2.html
Engines
Yanmar
Styer
Caterpillar
Yamaha
Tanks
Haul-out
Builders
US Plastics
I had forgotten how much stuff US Plastics has. http://www.usplastic.com/
sinks, tanks, plastic bolts, hinges, structural shapes; all kinds of things. All kinds of things for boats that won’t corrode and are light.
And Mike Roth reminds me of Harrington Plastics, also here in Seattle.
Jan Gougeon
Godspeed Jan. http://www.mlive.com/business/mid-michigan/index.ssf/2012/12/bay_city_boat_builder_sailor_j.html
Jan and Meade basically invented modern epoxy boatbuilding. I had the honor and privilege to meet both of them at IBEX in ’09 at Miami. We spoke a lot. They were impressed with my Post-Apocalyptic Boatbuilding article. They told me that it motivated them into getting back into the biz of boats. They wanted to help make boats available to the 10%, not just the 1%. I couldn’t agree more. That’s what I also try to do. And on Sailing Anarchy ” “It is a double loss to us. Today we lose a great innovator that found great fun in building crazy machines in unexpected ways to further some very important technologies,” wrote one commenter. “And then there is the loss of a great guy that seemed untiring in his quest to help us little guys… Fair winds.” I recently went to the Facebook page of the catamaran design company named after the candy. Virtually everything there was toys for millionaires. It’s not right. Godspeed Jan. Picture I took in Miami. Isn’t that Jim Gardiner also?
New 41 Powercat
36 Cat in AZ.
I just got this picture and note from Ian Walker in western Australia. He writes “I have been the proud and happy owner of a 36ft Hughes cat for 20 years. She is raced weekly for 9 months of the year then cruised around
the NW coast of Australia in the winter. She has covered several thousand
nautical miles, sometimes in atrocious conditions, including 1 night when
the wind exceeded 55 knots, and, to the credit of your design, has never
suffered structural failure.”